Tiga Bayles interviews Larissa Behrendt who is a Professor of Law and Director of Research at the Jumbunna Indigenous House of learning at the University of Technology in Sydney and Les Malezer who is the chairman of FAIRA. They talk about the new Prime Minister of Australia Kevin Rudd, Labor and Liberal, former Prime Minister John Howard, industrial relations, former Indigenous Affairs Minister Mal Brough, Prime Ministers of Australia, differences of government, the constitution, Close the Gap, Stolen Generation, Stolen Wages, health, housing, education, reconciliation, CDEP, climate change, Indigenous leadership and much more.

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