Tiga Bayles interviews John Wenitong National Indigenous Education Development Officer and Preben Mindamarra Higher Expectations Program (Secondary) Manage. They talk about the Higher Expectations Program what it is about, aspects of the program, Indigenous education, leadership, identity for Indigenous youth, recruitment and support. Tiga also interviews Yohan, the Manager for the Research and Development of Family Income Management. They talk about the Family Income Management program, who the program helps, communities where the program is offered, how FIM helps with money problems, budgeting, direct debts, managing money and time frames. Tiga Bayles also caught up with Simon Cotton the deputy Principal of Djarragun College. They talk about the collage, how long it been running, pressure of new enrolments, need for Independent Communities School and out comes. Tiga all talked with a student from the school.