Journalist and producer Rhianna Patrick opens up about what prompted her to leave the ABC after almost 19 years of service. She shares the highs and lows of her time as a Torres Strait Islander women working in a mainstream media organisation. She calls for better treatment of First Nations staff after she says she experienced layered challenges that she went on to label as ABC trauma.

In the second half of the program, we talk to Aunty Judy Kaye Knox and Dr Catherine Chamberline about the in-depth work they’ve done working with complex trauma.