We kick the show off with Nakari Thorpe, ABC Indigenous Journalist whose podcast looks at the introduction of smallpox in Australia and how it ravaged Aboriginal communities after introduced.

 This supports a bigger project called Patient Zero which tells the stories of disease outbreaks, where they began, why they happened and how it impacted people far and wide. 

You can catch the episode here 

In the second half of the program, you hear from Olga Havnen, CEO of Danila Dilba who reflects on the state of Incarceration, health and politics in the Northern Territory. How do we as a country improve Indigenous outcomes into the future?